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P/T ratio equivalent for one sided spec??
Message posted by PMH (via 194.106.141.243) on November 2, 2001 at 7:45 AM (ET)

Hi all,

I need to perform a Gage R&R study on test equipment for a product that has a one-sided spec. I can't present the results as a P/T ratio. What is the equivalent for a single sided spec?? and what are the standards for judging it e.g. >30% for a P/T ratio??

Any help would be greatly appreciated?


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Re: P/T ratio equivalent for one sided spec??
Message posted by PMH (via 194.106.141.243) on November 6, 2001 at 12:06 PM (ET)

Hi,

Can somebody help please. If the question doesn't make sense or is nonsense, please let me know.

Thanking You,
Paul


Re: P/T ratio equivalent for one sided spec??
Message posted by Phil (via 66.32.156.250) on November 7, 2001 at 11:52 AM (ET)

Great question.

What if instead of using the specification tolerance in the denominator, you use the natural tolerance of the process (six sigma of the actual process variation). Then you will have a number that indicates the quality of the measurement system in the same way as the P/T ratio intended. I would think that if the P/T ratio computed in this manner was < 0.25 (and the lower the better), you would be considered OK.

Make sure you footnote or explain what you did and why if you include it in a report.


Re: P/T ratio equivalent for one sided spec??
Message posted by PMH (via 194.106.141.243) on November 9, 2001 at 5:28 AM (ET)

Thanks Phil.


Nonsense
Message posted by babaqoy mastan (via 63.59.227.54) on November 19, 2001 at 3:44 PM (ET)

what the jell is that p/t m/t piece/of shet. if you dont have any thing to do except that come in my house i will tech you some stuff that you could keep your self bussy


Re: P/T ratio equivalent for one sided spec??
Message posted by PMH (via 194.106.141.243) on November 20, 2001 at 4:36 AM (ET)

Hi all,

Your man above has reminded me of a question I wished to pose to this forum.

I intend to calculate a P/T-like ratio as described by Phil above, i.e. my (Gage capability)/(6 Process Sigma). However, textbooks differ on the manner order of Gage Capability to be used.
Some suggest (Gage capability)/(6 Process Sigma).....
Others suggest (6 Gage Capability)/ (6 Process Sigma).....
While others again suggest (5.15 Gage Capability)/ (6 Process Sigma).

Which is the most commonly used?
The (6...)/(6...) option appeals to me as it would reflect total test varience as a percentage of total process varience. If used does the 25% test criteria as suggested by Phil still stand.

Thanks, Paul.



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